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29

Why do democrats want to say its the banks fault that the homeowner failed to repay a loan?

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I asked this question earlier this morning. Why are democrats blaming the banks because someone who borrowed money didn’t pay them back?

Dems – If someone borrows $1,000 dollars from you and doesn’t pay you back. Would you say:

A: Its OK. Forget about it
B: Punch them in the nose and say give me the money
C: Take the to small claims court and have a judge force them to pay you. If they don’t obey the judge, have the sheriff start seizing property and sell it until you get your money back?
D: the person says that they didn’t understand the terms of the loan so therefore they should not have to pay you back. Then you forget about it and go to the government to see if they will pay you back.

I would say B and C should be the correct answers. But this will be interesting reading.
TG – If the bank did the proper qualification for the loan, but the borrower fails to repay. Is it still the banks fault?
PJ – If the bank did the proper paperwork and explained the loan to the borrower and the borrower failed to understand the terms of the loan. Whose fault is that?

The person could have said “I don’t understand and therefore I don’t want to sign the papers.”

But the person wanted the money to pay off a car, credit cards, medical bills, etc., so are they a fool for putting themselves in this situation?

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23 Comments

1

Because justification and rationalization mean you don’t have to take responsibility for your own actions. Much easier to blame someone else and then sit and wait for someone else to bail you out of your mess.

2

Ha I completely agree with you! lol

3

The bank has as much responsibilty to make responsible loans and minimize risk as the consumer does to only borrow what they can repay.

Fail…sorry

4

You have to understand math before making a home loan. But that to would have liberals blaming our school system for that.

5

Part of the problem is that banks lent money to people they never should have. For example, the single mother of 2 who made $35,000 a year and was approved for a variable rate mortgage of $275,000.

Shame on the bank. Dumb move on her part for signing the papers.

I agree…. people need to be responsible for their own actions. But the banks, driven by greed for fees, are partially to blame for this mess. They should have never given out high-risk loans to those who could never afford to repay them.

6

I’d pick E = none of the above.

Both the lender and the borrower are at fault here. The bank should not have made loans that the borrower was not qualified for, and the borrower should not have borrowed more than they could afford.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

I am a democrat – and I don’t think like you are saying. Generalizations are bad and don’t accomplish anything. They create division. Stop it!!

7

The liberal Democrats need to take the focus off of themselves.

The Democrats are the politicians who forced the banks to change their lending standards by insisting that banks provide easy credit and no down payment to low income applicants.

The average Obama fan, however, is not really aware of the facts, though.

8

Most people are just not that stupid but the government (as a whole) is relying on those who refuse to take their blinders off and see beyond the lies.

Blame the banks, blame the Dem’s, blame the Rep, blame wall street, blame everyone but the government. Then, make the irresponsible look like the victims.

That is getting old.

9

The problem is that the banks were encouraging people to take out bad loans, including giving easily payable teaser rates, and then when the payments escalated people couldn’t pay. Also, a lot of banks were having fees stacked on that people shouldn’t have had to pay, payments were credited late even though paid timely and then demands made for late charges and interest on late charges, etc., and that was just the tip of the ice berg. Not to mention, a lot of people were making their payments until the economy fell apart and they lost their jobs and at best could find much lower paying jobs. These facts are just the tip of the iceberg. In other words, you are trying to reduce a very complicated situation to a very simple answer and it isn’t accurate.

10
Lord Percy Wooster IV
August 20th, 2009 at 4:57 am

i was unable to find any where the democrats said that
could you please quote , where you got this from and who in the democrats said it

i think you have been fooled by republican propaganda, to hide their economic incompetence

11
pastor of muppets
August 20th, 2009 at 7:25 am

In alot of cases, banks were making loans to people they shouldn’t have. in those cases it’s the banks own damn fault. Would you lend $1000 to someone you knew couldn’t pay you back?

However, people who just don’t pay their loans and have the money shouldn’t be getting any assitance. Please provide a link to where any one in the democratic party said they should.

12

The simple answer to your question is because as long as they can skirt the blame on to the big bad predatory financial institutions, than the irresponsible americans who bought home loans with an adjustable rate mortgage they knew they couldn’t afford if rates were to go up, can continue to play the victims and hold their hands out for a gov’t rescue. Dems like to keep the poor poor and reliant on the gov’t.

13
oprah-lookalike R
August 23rd, 2009 at 5:06 am

That is more agreeable to their welfare base of voters who they hope will let them stay in power in 2010…They are beginning to see that AMERICANS MEAN Business–and we’re not going to stand for this money grab–without voting OUT ALL THOSE WHO VOTED for it–and now they want stupid voters to believe it was the banks–Colonel Mustard in the Dining Room with the Candlestick–?

When have banks ever done the moral or right thing? SIMON Legree–remember him? The banks did it so they could steal the land and home–out from under folks–and get it for a song–criminals–nothing more..

We may be gullible–but the American Voters are not morons…

UNSEAT CONGRESS HOUSE members who voted to throw America in the trash!!

14

Banks, like all loan sharks are sneaky and take advantage of people in their greatest need. Its not the loan that is difficult to repay, its the interest. by the time you’ve serviced the debt for a few years, you would have paid the loan several times over and still owe the blood-suckers. Its easy for you to sit there all aloof and all knowing but if you have never been there, you won’t know what its like.

15

If I could loan that thousand dollars knowing I could immediately sell the debt to someone else who doesn’t know my irresponsible friend, then yes. They would be the losers not I.

16

Because it’s the bank’s job to manage everyone’s money.

Yes if I don’t pay back my $1000 loan then I’m guilty for that $1000.

Banking allows for a certain percentage of unpaid loans.

It’s up to the bank to ensure they are generating enough interest to cover the unpaid loans.

17

you really don’t expect the dems to take any blame do you? Most people got their houses when the economy was’t so bad but now jobs are lost and are scarce now it’s a different thing. If the banks want to take on taking back the houses let them. they won’t get as much for them and hey people go rent. let the Albatross go.

18

When you go to the doctor and he(she) tells you you need to start taking this kind of medicine do you think…
a. he’s a doctor and knows what he’s talking about. I’ll believe him and take the medicine.
b. he’s a doctor and wants to rob me and for me to die a horrible painful death. I won’t take the medicine.

Banks are in the loan business. If someone couldn’t pay off a loan, they should be the ones who would figure it out. Instead, they gave loans to people that almost certainly couldn’t pay them back. If you’re a first time home owner, and a banker guy tells you you can afford this loan, and you’ll be able to pay it back, you believe him cause he’s a banker and loans are his business.

19
Steeler Fan 4 life
September 6th, 2009 at 3:19 am

I agree with you 100%…

I don’t understand how the bank is responsible for telling someone what they can and cant afford. the bank says, “If you borrow this $200,000, at this interest rate, your payments will be X dollars a month.” it is up to the borrower to know if they can afford X or not. What, should the bank ask them to bring in their cable bill, phone bill, food bill, various expense documentation and then figure out what they can and cant afford.

Look, I’m pissed off about this whole mortgage bail out thing. I think it is BS that just because I pay my mortgage on time every month because I was smart enough to a. not take out a loan I couldn’t afford the payments to, and B. was smart enough to realize, hey, if I want to pay X per month, and don’t want that cost to go up, maybe I should have a fixed APR, I don’t feel I should be punished through higher taxes to pay for some ignoramus who decided that even though they brought home $2500/month, they could afford a $2000/month mortgage.

Be responsible for your actions!!! dont expect the gov’t, and those people who are responsible to bail you out all the time.

20

It is complicated but in most cases it was a series of events and the banks had a good idea there would be foreclosures but at the time they were just going to profit from it. Government encouraged development away from the center cities where most of the work was that is the first way government was planning poorly, Gas doubled in price in a Short period, people never take into account the household cost of fuel when you live an hour from your work. They were late on a payment Bush ask the banks to be lenient but the banks thought profit and risk. When the banks had investors calling in the insurance because we created no confidence the banks were over extended and could not pay foreign investors. The house of cards was going to fall. Then the banks said that they would need a bail out to stabilize the market a lie really because they should have worked it out. It is just not the people that made the loans fault

21

The banks that extend loans have been doing it for 10,000 years.

They know perfectly well how to read a credit report and determine accurately out of 100 loans what percentage of those loans will be paid back and the attached risk factor. That’s how they determine interest rates, loan availability etc..

Okay cool so far..

Where the banks screwed the country was on two points.

First there was a rash of unqualified loan specialists popping up around the country between 02′ and 05′.. All these work from home jobs refinancing loans.. They jammed in all these balloon interest rates sometimes not being totally honest with the new refinancing terms..
That was step one.

Next came wall street taking subprime loans and categorizing them as A1 instruments.. This means they were taking risky investments (the loans themselves) and reselling them on the derivatives market.
Because of the (false) high rating mutual funds which include pensions and 401k’s picked them up. Shortly after risky investments did what they always do – and fluctuated in value. It is that fluctuation which has caused the loss of savings and investor trust.

So who’s to blame?
The SEC for allowing such instruments to be sold on the derivatives market under false pretenses? Was it Clinton for removing the government imposed ban on derivatives in the first place? Or was it the investment geniuses who were able to sell basically junk loans at an inflated value due to a false categorization???

My point is homeowners refinancing their loans are predictable.
Everyone knew how much they make and their credit history.
There was no subterfuge or hidden truth at that point in this process.

I wish it was as simple as gee that neighbor of mine couldn’t pay back his loan. But really it’s even more complicated than i just described. I didn’t even get into the global market factors…

Have a nice day!

22

It is Liberal double-talk. The Democrats forced banks to make bad loans. This is a fact. But the banks actually lent the money so…..see what I mean?

Do you know how much a trillion is? If you had a two dollar bill for every star in the Milky Way (400 billion) you would still have 100 billion two dollar bills left.

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23

Because the term personal responsibility does not exist in their vocabulary. People who took out those mortgages because they had a cheap rate to start with but knew it would increase and thought they could refinance or sell that before it happened are not home buyers but tried to be an investor with the house they bought. I bought fixed rate, bought what I could afford actually less then I could afford, and bought a home to stay in long term (meaning more then 3 to 5 years) but I am supposed to help the people who chose to take the chance and lost? The talk of making companies refinance and lower the principle to the current value (write off part of the debt) is even worse-if the house goes up in value will they be allowed to increase the principle to make up the money they lost or if my house goes up in value will they be able to increase my loan by that much? Of course not that would help the greedy banks and we just want to help people who thought to make a fast buck or take advantage of the system-those people need to be rewarded. This whole thing is just buying votes and rewarding bad behavior. The house next to me is foreclosed on and my house value goes down-so what this is my home first and an investment second so I lose nothing if the value goes down exact paper money because it is an investment but if I don’t sell I do not lose ash and if I think it is an investment primarily and just a house-then it is like the stock market and you should repay people who lost “money” or value there also. Their is a difference between people who bought a home and people buying a house and the difference is the home people bought a long term place to live and raise a family while the person buying a house was investing money to make money and too many of the second group is who we are helping. The home buyers who bought figuring they could refinance before the adjustable went up rather then finance with fixed rate-you took a chance and lost and again it was a personal choice and your responsibility so why would the nation be responsible for bailing you out? If you couldn’t afford it with a fixed rate loan payment then you could have bought smaller or less expensive and buying at 90 to 100 percent of your loan value means you are walking a very tight line and took the chance you would make it-again personal choice and personal responsibility.

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